Comments on: Prepare for the Best and the Worst http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/ Useful news and information about HD DVD and related technologies and products Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:38:37 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Rodney http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/comment-page-2/#comment-1010 Rodney Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:40:40 +0000 http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/#comment-1010 Personally, I am surprised that the industry as a whole believes that there has to be only one format. Just look at the gaming industry. Take the EA sports title Madden 08, this has been a workhorse of EA for years and EA produces this title for all of the four major formats not to mention the two handheld units. If the industry can support a xbox 360, wii, ps3, ps2, psp and ds. Why can't it support only two high def formats? Just because there is only one standard for sdvd then why does there have to be only one standard for high def dvd. I think with such heavy players (microsoft and toshiba) that there needs to be a rethinking in marketing. Sony lost the (beta vs vhs war) because of price tied to the patent rights to produce their beta format even though the beta format was better, and because of a failure in marketing. If toshiba throws in the towel, it will be because of a failure in marketing, because toshiba clearly has the price and many believe the quality advantage. Just something to think about. Personally, I am surprised that the industry as a whole believes that there has to be only one format. Just look at the gaming industry. Take the EA sports title Madden 08, this has been a workhorse of EA for years and EA produces this title for all of the four major formats not to mention the two handheld units. If the industry can support a xbox 360, wii, ps3, ps2, psp and ds. Why can’t it support only two high def formats? Just because there is only one standard for sdvd then why does there have to be only one standard for high def dvd. I think with such heavy players (microsoft and toshiba) that there needs to be a rethinking in marketing. Sony lost the (beta vs vhs war) because of price tied to the patent rights to produce their beta format even though the beta format was better, and because of a failure in marketing. If toshiba throws in the towel, it will be because of a failure in marketing, because toshiba clearly has the price and many believe the quality advantage. Just something to think about.

]]> By: ultimus http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/comment-page-2/#comment-1009 ultimus Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:49:17 +0000 http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/#comment-1009 someone confirm this please: http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSL1627196120080216 someone confirm this please:

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssConsumerGoodsAndRetailNews/idUSL1627196120080216

]]> By: Chasarms http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/comment-page-2/#comment-1008 Chasarms Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:47:04 +0000 http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/#comment-1008 If price is the only issue, I have to think that one or the other (sorry looks to be BD) winning the war and a single format immerging will end-user lower cost. I believe so for this reason: There are many second-tier electronics manufactuers out that have yet to get on the hi-def disk band wagon because they can absorb the R&D costs if they pick the wrong side. I'm not saying that their players will be the best of the best, but if BD carries the day, I would expect their to be reasonably affordable players in the market by the holiday season '08. I really don't care who wins. I just think the consumer is better served with all the studios releasing hi-def disks in the same format. If Toshiba really wants to win hearts and minds, they'll release a hybrid that plays HD-DVD and BD that is cost competitive with the current BD players. If price is the only issue, I have to think that one or the other (sorry looks to be BD) winning the war and a single format immerging will end-user lower cost. I believe so for this reason:

There are many second-tier electronics manufactuers out that have yet to get on the hi-def disk band wagon because they can absorb the R&D costs if they pick the wrong side. I’m not saying that their players will be the best of the best, but if BD carries the day, I would expect their to be reasonably affordable players in the market by the holiday season ‘08.

I really don’t care who wins. I just think the consumer is better served with all the studios releasing hi-def disks in the same format.

If Toshiba really wants to win hearts and minds, they’ll release a hybrid that plays HD-DVD and BD that is cost competitive with the current BD players.

]]> By: protonman http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-1007 protonman Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:15:01 +0000 http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/#comment-1007 well... in fact biby is not that wrong, if the 360 had the HDDVD integrated for gaming and video, the developers could use more of the potential of the 360, but they are confined to one limited space disk, and rockstar already told that. well… in fact biby is not that wrong, if the 360 had the HDDVD integrated for gaming and video, the developers could use more of the potential of the 360, but they are confined to one limited space disk, and rockstar already told that.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-1006 Andrew Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:14:54 +0000 http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/#comment-1006 Toshiba and partners should definitely hang in there. Once the public sees that Universal and Paramount are not going anywhere for a long time, they'll regain confidence in the format and dismiss all the rumors generated from the blu-ray fanboys as scare tactics. Get some good solid releases out (starting with American Gangster) and people will begin to take notice that HD still has some great exclusive titles. Toshiba and partners should definitely hang in there. Once the public sees that Universal and Paramount are not going anywhere for a long time, they’ll regain confidence in the format and dismiss all the rumors generated from the blu-ray fanboys as scare tactics. Get some good solid releases out (starting with American Gangster) and people will begin to take notice that HD still has some great exclusive titles.

]]> By: JOhn http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-1005 JOhn Sat, 16 Feb 2008 05:35:49 +0000 http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/#comment-1005 HD-DVD had its pros but as a big audiophile Blu-ray had a lot more to offer and same with video quality. I'm just glad this is finally over and the better format won HD-DVD had its pros but as a big audiophile Blu-ray had a lot more to offer and same with video quality. I’m just glad this is finally over and the better format won

]]> By: Pravin http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-1003 Pravin Sat, 16 Feb 2008 05:14:00 +0000 http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/#comment-1003 @biby - I can tell you're not a programmer. Let's just leave this particular topic with the following: * We can never say that games won't need tons of disc space. They eventually will. * The majority of games made today, and probably for quite a while will fit just fine on DVDs @biby – I can tell you’re not a programmer. Let’s just leave this particular topic with the following:

* We can never say that games won’t need tons of disc space. They eventually will.
* The majority of games made today, and probably for quite a while will fit just fine on DVDs

]]> By: CTemple http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-1002 CTemple Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:05:10 +0000 http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/#comment-1002 The Media is killing off HD DVD by putting tremendous doubt in the average consumers mind with their uneducated guesses on the date of it's demise. I'll believe it when I see it, but for now I'm reluctant to but anymore HD movies myself. I just think its kind of sad because I'm a "best bang for your buck" kind of person and HD DVD is/was exactly that. The only BD player I'd consider getting is a PS3 because I am a gamer, but even that is very expensive. I might wait for a new model with better BD specs before I dive into another pricey media format. The Media is killing off HD DVD by putting tremendous doubt in the average consumers mind with their uneducated guesses on the date of it’s demise. I’ll believe it when I see it, but for now I’m reluctant to but anymore HD movies myself. I just think its kind of sad because I’m a “best bang for your buck” kind of person and HD DVD is/was exactly that. The only BD player I’d consider getting is a PS3 because I am a gamer, but even that is very expensive. I might wait for a new model with better BD specs before I dive into another pricey media format.

]]> By: biby http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-1001 biby Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:29:53 +0000 http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/#comment-1001 not only textures pravin, more string codes, more information about the geometry codes, more routines, more cinematic routines, motion capture routines etc. those are huge amounts of info and the actual disks are not enough to contain the info of more complex games, if the gaming devs use a limited storage like the dvds they are forced to reduce the quantity and the quality of the games and use a low streaming methods. The new games needs more space just like the transition of the PS1 cd and the PS2 dvd and force the devs to program new streaming codes or even the use of new multi processors for stream dedicated information methods. not only textures pravin, more string codes, more information about the geometry codes, more routines, more cinematic routines, motion capture routines etc. those are huge amounts of info and the actual disks are not enough to contain the info of more complex games, if the gaming devs use a limited storage like the dvds they are forced to reduce the quantity and the quality of the games and use a low streaming methods. The new games needs more space just like the transition of the PS1 cd and the PS2 dvd and force the devs to program new streaming codes or even the use of new multi processors for stream dedicated information methods.

]]> By: Unintelligible http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/comment-page-1/#comment-1000 Unintelligible Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:45:39 +0000 http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/prepare-for-the-best-and-the-worst/#comment-1000 KlownMaster: HD DVD is not spec wise superior to BD, BD holds more and reads faster. It does cost more but not by that much per disc. I really liked the fact that HD DVD had no region code when the format war began and I hoped it would win the format war. I watch a lot of forign movies, mostly anime, and regionless was a great feature that BD did not share with HD DVD. I also hate Sony because they seem to always try to screw their consumers at every turn, they have a long history of doing so. But ultimately, when I saw the the scale tip balance towards BD, I bought a PS3. I would much rather have a quick end to this format war instead of having a long drawn out battle. The sooner this format war is over, the sooner I can start watching the movies I want in HD. Early adopters / fanboys will be angry as hell but that's why I didn't adopt early, and since things seems so stacked the way they are, theres no point in dragging things out. KlownMaster: HD DVD is not spec wise superior to BD, BD holds more and reads faster. It does cost more but not by that much per disc.

I really liked the fact that HD DVD had no region code when the format war began and I hoped it would win the format war. I watch a lot of forign movies, mostly anime, and regionless was a great feature that BD did not share with HD DVD. I also hate Sony because they seem to always try to screw their consumers at every turn, they have a long history of doing so. But ultimately, when I saw the the scale tip balance towards BD, I bought a PS3. I would much rather have a quick end to this format war instead of having a long drawn out battle. The sooner this format war is over, the sooner I can start watching the movies I want in HD. Early adopters / fanboys will be angry as hell but that’s why I didn’t adopt early, and since things seems so stacked the way they are, theres no point in dragging things out.

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