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		<title>By: Pravin</title>
		<link>http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/hd-dvd-news-updates-for-mid-october-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Pravin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your obeisance is accepted and you will be blessed shortly.

Guys, don&#039;t even try to refute his &quot;argument&quot; because it&#039;s not worth your time and effort. I only approved his rant for its amusement value.

Plenty of gaming sites and mainstream media handily disprove his statements, and there&#039;s need for us to even try.

Comments are now closed on this posting because it&#039;s obviously become fanboy bait, and that&#039;s not what this site is for.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your obeisance is accepted and you will be blessed shortly.</p>
<p>Guys, don&#8217;t even try to refute his &#8220;argument&#8221; because it&#8217;s not worth your time and effort. I only approved his rant for its amusement value.</p>
<p>Plenty of gaming sites and mainstream media handily disprove his statements, and there&#8217;s need for us to even try.</p>
<p>Comments are now closed on this posting because it&#8217;s obviously become fanboy bait, and that&#8217;s not what this site is for.</p>
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		<title>By: rwarner174</title>
		<link>http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/hd-dvd-news-updates-for-mid-october-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>rwarner174</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3) PS3, as others have said, does not have a killer game over a year into itâ€™s life. Xbox 360 on the other hand has several, most notably Halo3 , Bio Shock and Gears of War. People go out to buy the console specifically to play those games.

Now that is FUD if I have ever heard it.
You apparently have never touched a ps3.  Let alone warhawk, hevanly sword, resistance, motorstorm, tenken 5, not to mention all the 3rd party software.
By the way UT2008 &gt; Halo 3, in fact UT &gt; then all things halo, sorry to say.  Talk to the creators of UT about how much they think microsofts closed source operation sucks, I guess you could talk to harmonix as well (special wireless technology, ha ha ha.  Its called bluetooth MS!!!!)

Xbox Live is simply far and away the biggest rip off in gaming history.  Pay 60$ a year on top of a DSL line for something I have been doing on a pc for ten years?  Hmm, sounds like fud to me.  I don&#039;t care if turns water into wine, I refuse to pay a dime for online gaming unless its World of Warcraft!  At least I can understand the cost there.  Microsoft is the biggest bunch of scum on the planet, but I guess I can&#039;t blame them for taking advantage of the stupid.  

PS3 = greatest multimedia device ever created and I bought it for movies but now I enjoy games again and so did a lot of people so point two is pretty much something you just made up in your head.

Oh yeah, 40Gb ps3 is 399 with built in bluray drive, sounds like the price point is just right and your point 5 is garbage too.

I am sure I will be called a fanboy because I have the audacity to disagree with the all knowing Pravin the great world view.
Praise be XBOX360, Praise be Toshiba and the giver of life HDDVD.  HDDVD is up there with the polio vaccine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3) PS3, as others have said, does not have a killer game over a year into itâ€™s life. Xbox 360 on the other hand has several, most notably Halo3 , Bio Shock and Gears of War. People go out to buy the console specifically to play those games.</p>
<p>Now that is FUD if I have ever heard it.<br />
You apparently have never touched a ps3.  Let alone warhawk, hevanly sword, resistance, motorstorm, tenken 5, not to mention all the 3rd party software.<br />
By the way UT2008 &gt; Halo 3, in fact UT &gt; then all things halo, sorry to say.  Talk to the creators of UT about how much they think microsofts closed source operation sucks, I guess you could talk to harmonix as well (special wireless technology, ha ha ha.  Its called bluetooth MS!!!!)</p>
<p>Xbox Live is simply far and away the biggest rip off in gaming history.  Pay 60$ a year on top of a DSL line for something I have been doing on a pc for ten years?  Hmm, sounds like fud to me.  I don&#8217;t care if turns water into wine, I refuse to pay a dime for online gaming unless its World of Warcraft!  At least I can understand the cost there.  Microsoft is the biggest bunch of scum on the planet, but I guess I can&#8217;t blame them for taking advantage of the stupid.  </p>
<p>PS3 = greatest multimedia device ever created and I bought it for movies but now I enjoy games again and so did a lot of people so point two is pretty much something you just made up in your head.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, 40Gb ps3 is 399 with built in bluray drive, sounds like the price point is just right and your point 5 is garbage too.</p>
<p>I am sure I will be called a fanboy because I have the audacity to disagree with the all knowing Pravin the great world view.<br />
Praise be XBOX360, Praise be Toshiba and the giver of life HDDVD.  HDDVD is up there with the polio vaccine!</p>
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		<title>By: sholmes</title>
		<link>http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/hd-dvd-news-updates-for-mid-october-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>sholmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that the PS3&#039;s struggles (and there is no denying that the console is struggling) are due to several factors:

1) The console got to market a full year after the 360. By that time the latter console had already sold millions of units. Most people are npt going to invest over $800 to own two game consoles, so Sony lost millions of potential sales among those people who wanted a next gen console as soon as possible.

2) Sony overestimated the impact of BluRay to their sales of the console. Most people are perfectly content with SD DVD and are not going to buy a game console based on HD Video playback. In other words people buy a game console to play games. I never got the HD add on for the 360. When the time came I got a stand alone. My game console is for games.

3) PS3, as others have said, does not have a killer game over a year into it&#039;s life. Xbox 360 on the other hand has several, most notably Halo3 , Bio Shock and Gears of War. People go out to buy the console specifically to play those games.

4) And VERY important, the PS2 is still a GREAT console with a wide catalogue of inexpensive games. I still have my PS2 and use it all the time. Why upgrade to a PS3 with limited game selection when the older console is just fine?

5) Price point is also a big factor. I now own two 360&#039;s, one for me and one for my daughter and we can play through Xbox live from different areas and have a ball with that. PS3 is simply too expensive to buy multiple units.

6) Xbox Live is simply far and away the best online gaming experience for the console. Sony, by it&#039;s own admission has miles to go to catch up in this area.

What all this has to do with HD DVD vs BluRay is unclear but those are my opinions about the lack of real success of the PS3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the PS3&#8217;s struggles (and there is no denying that the console is struggling) are due to several factors:</p>
<p>1) The console got to market a full year after the 360. By that time the latter console had already sold millions of units. Most people are npt going to invest over $800 to own two game consoles, so Sony lost millions of potential sales among those people who wanted a next gen console as soon as possible.</p>
<p>2) Sony overestimated the impact of BluRay to their sales of the console. Most people are perfectly content with SD DVD and are not going to buy a game console based on HD Video playback. In other words people buy a game console to play games. I never got the HD add on for the 360. When the time came I got a stand alone. My game console is for games.</p>
<p>3) PS3, as others have said, does not have a killer game over a year into it&#8217;s life. Xbox 360 on the other hand has several, most notably Halo3 , Bio Shock and Gears of War. People go out to buy the console specifically to play those games.</p>
<p>4) And VERY important, the PS2 is still a GREAT console with a wide catalogue of inexpensive games. I still have my PS2 and use it all the time. Why upgrade to a PS3 with limited game selection when the older console is just fine?</p>
<p>5) Price point is also a big factor. I now own two 360&#8217;s, one for me and one for my daughter and we can play through Xbox live from different areas and have a ball with that. PS3 is simply too expensive to buy multiple units.</p>
<p>6) Xbox Live is simply far and away the best online gaming experience for the console. Sony, by it&#8217;s own admission has miles to go to catch up in this area.</p>
<p>What all this has to do with HD DVD vs BluRay is unclear but those are my opinions about the lack of real success of the PS3.</p>
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		<title>By: Pravin</title>
		<link>http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/hd-dvd-news-updates-for-mid-october-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>Pravin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bret, if you&#039;re so tired of the FUD then don&#039;t propagate the same practices when it&#039;s your turn to post messages. You&#039;re basically using the commenting opportunity to plant seeds of doubt. In this particular instance, it was about the Xbox 360&#039;s popularity and usefulness of HD DVD playback. The much better audience for this is over at PS3 and Blu-ray oriented venues.

The PS3 is great hardware, however the cost is prohibitive and the software library only boasts a few great titles in a few genres. It hasn&#039;t even been out for a year yet, and we&#039;ve already seen it go through a few pricing and model modifications to make it more attractive. Given another year, I&#039;m sure the PS3 will be able to hold its own ground in terms of unit sales and game library.

In contrast, the 360 did not see price cuts or new models for a very long time. This is consistent with their strategy to make it a game box with media extension capabilities. Making the HD DVD optional was necessary at the time of release, and it&#039;s continued absense in a player is also more proof of Microsoft&#039;s focus for that game console.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bret, if you&#8217;re so tired of the FUD then don&#8217;t propagate the same practices when it&#8217;s your turn to post messages. You&#8217;re basically using the commenting opportunity to plant seeds of doubt. In this particular instance, it was about the Xbox 360&#8217;s popularity and usefulness of HD DVD playback. The much better audience for this is over at PS3 and Blu-ray oriented venues.</p>
<p>The PS3 is great hardware, however the cost is prohibitive and the software library only boasts a few great titles in a few genres. It hasn&#8217;t even been out for a year yet, and we&#8217;ve already seen it go through a few pricing and model modifications to make it more attractive. Given another year, I&#8217;m sure the PS3 will be able to hold its own ground in terms of unit sales and game library.</p>
<p>In contrast, the 360 did not see price cuts or new models for a very long time. This is consistent with their strategy to make it a game box with media extension capabilities. Making the HD DVD optional was necessary at the time of release, and it&#8217;s continued absense in a player is also more proof of Microsoft&#8217;s focus for that game console.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/hd-dvd-news-updates-for-mid-october-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point in bringing up the fact that now Xbox might include a HD drive standard in one of their many editions will not have nearly the same effect that it would have had if it were there from the beginning.  Bringing up games does not do much for your argument, as games as a matter of opinion.  I personally hate first person shooter games.  I agree with you though that Halo 3 is a big game for Xbox.  Correct me if I&#039;m mistaken, but doesn&#039;t Playstation 3 have Metal Gear Solid coming out, which is a pretty big exclusive game.

I guess when I think about it, Microsoft could have folded their big lead if they waited until the system was ready for release instead of rushing it out.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve heard of some of the early problems Xbox had, so that&#039;s really a mute point.

With regards to FUD, that is what I get from every other site between both HD and BD supporters.  I was not trying to spread FUD here, but I don&#039;t believe the 7 million people that own a Xbox 360 will go out and get another one just because it has a HD DVD drive standard on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point in bringing up the fact that now Xbox might include a HD drive standard in one of their many editions will not have nearly the same effect that it would have had if it were there from the beginning.  Bringing up games does not do much for your argument, as games as a matter of opinion.  I personally hate first person shooter games.  I agree with you though that Halo 3 is a big game for Xbox.  Correct me if I&#8217;m mistaken, but doesn&#8217;t Playstation 3 have Metal Gear Solid coming out, which is a pretty big exclusive game.</p>
<p>I guess when I think about it, Microsoft could have folded their big lead if they waited until the system was ready for release instead of rushing it out.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve heard of some of the early problems Xbox had, so that&#8217;s really a mute point.</p>
<p>With regards to FUD, that is what I get from every other site between both HD and BD supporters.  I was not trying to spread FUD here, but I don&#8217;t believe the 7 million people that own a Xbox 360 will go out and get another one just because it has a HD DVD drive standard on it.</p>
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		<title>By: PrestoMovie</title>
		<link>http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/hd-dvd-news-updates-for-mid-october-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>PrestoMovie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey bret: look at how well the PS2 is selling.

and that&#039;s a DEAD console.

and then think about the 360, a relatively new console.

yeah. 

exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey bret: look at how well the PS2 is selling.</p>
<p>and that&#8217;s a DEAD console.</p>
<p>and then think about the 360, a relatively new console.</p>
<p>yeah. </p>
<p>exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: Pravin</title>
		<link>http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/hd-dvd-news-updates-for-mid-october-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>Pravin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a classic FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) tactic to spread misinformation and try to get people to believe those falsehoods. Misrepresenting Xbox 360 sales was a particulary bad point to choose because it&#039;s so easily refuted, and by the mainstream media, no less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a classic FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) tactic to spread misinformation and try to get people to believe those falsehoods. Misrepresenting Xbox 360 sales was a particulary bad point to choose because it&#8217;s so easily refuted, and by the mainstream media, no less.</p>
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		<title>By: julioaragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>julioaragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you crazy? do you know how many units the 360 has sold in the us alone since it first came out? its only picking up momentum, with the price drops, so far 7 million units in the us, playstation 3  has only 1.7 million in the us. even with the price drops today ps3 80 gb for $499 and the 40gb in november it is still in deep trouble, and still too expensive. and just one good hit in heavenly sword, but 360 has bioshock, halo3, mass effect in november, last years gears of war, sony&#039;s gonna have to drop the price to match the $279 version of the 360,a nd come out with better games and have microsoft somehow not have any more good games for sony to catch up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you crazy? do you know how many units the 360 has sold in the us alone since it first came out? its only picking up momentum, with the price drops, so far 7 million units in the us, playstation 3  has only 1.7 million in the us. even with the price drops today ps3 80 gb for $499 and the 40gb in november it is still in deep trouble, and still too expensive. and just one good hit in heavenly sword, but 360 has bioshock, halo3, mass effect in november, last years gears of war, sony&#8217;s gonna have to drop the price to match the $279 version of the 360,a nd come out with better games and have microsoft somehow not have any more good games for sony to catch up</p>
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		<title>By: Pravin</title>
		<link>http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/hd-dvd-news-updates-for-mid-october-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>Pravin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Xbox 360 just outsold the Wii last month, primarily due to a price drop and Halo 3. According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/336041_xbox19.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/336041_xbox19.html&lt;/a&gt;, the NPD group reports that the 360 sold 528,000 units in September, with the Wii selling 501,000, and the PS3 trailing with a measly 119,000.

Sales on game consoles are growing, with spikes in each model&#039;s sales charts showing up as special offers become available (usually price drops). The PS3 should experience a big sales spike in November and December, following its price cuts.

Microsoft could not include an HD DVD player from the beginning because those drives weren&#039;t out yet, and Microsoft didn&#039;t have a larger consumer electronics agenda. If drives become cheap enough, I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll consider it. There are reports on Kotaku and other game sites today about a whole other angle on that HD DVD built-in drive story.

I&#039;m not opposed to differing points of view, and I put up with some trolling in the past. However, that&#039;s not what this blog is about. This is a place for HD DVD. There are already blogs and forum sites where people can learn and brag about the other choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Xbox 360 just outsold the Wii last month, primarily due to a price drop and Halo 3. According to <a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/336041_xbox19.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/336041_xbox19.html</a>, the NPD group reports that the 360 sold 528,000 units in September, with the Wii selling 501,000, and the PS3 trailing with a measly 119,000.</p>
<p>Sales on game consoles are growing, with spikes in each model&#8217;s sales charts showing up as special offers become available (usually price drops). The PS3 should experience a big sales spike in November and December, following its price cuts.</p>
<p>Microsoft could not include an HD DVD player from the beginning because those drives weren&#8217;t out yet, and Microsoft didn&#8217;t have a larger consumer electronics agenda. If drives become cheap enough, I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll consider it. There are reports on Kotaku and other game sites today about a whole other angle on that HD DVD built-in drive story.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not opposed to differing points of view, and I put up with some trolling in the past. However, that&#8217;s not what this blog is about. This is a place for HD DVD. There are already blogs and forum sites where people can learn and brag about the other choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.hddvd.com/go.php/hd-dvd-news-updates-for-mid-october-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will a Xbox 360 with a built-in HD DVD player make much of a difference at this point?  Think about it, Xbox sales are not growing, the majority of the people that have an Xbox will not buy a new Xbox.  If they, Microsoft, wanted to be on top of this from the start, then they would have included a HD DVD player from the beginning.

And weren&#039;t you the one who told me that we shouldn&#039;t be believing employees of these chains?  Just wondering.  Although, it probably does not matter anyway, because I&#039;m sure this post will not make it through anyway because you apparently do not want to look at any side that happens to be different from your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will a Xbox 360 with a built-in HD DVD player make much of a difference at this point?  Think about it, Xbox sales are not growing, the majority of the people that have an Xbox will not buy a new Xbox.  If they, Microsoft, wanted to be on top of this from the start, then they would have included a HD DVD player from the beginning.</p>
<p>And weren&#8217;t you the one who told me that we shouldn&#8217;t be believing employees of these chains?  Just wondering.  Although, it probably does not matter anyway, because I&#8217;m sure this post will not make it through anyway because you apparently do not want to look at any side that happens to be different from your own.</p>
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